Stephen Fry is the kind of person to avoid debating against. He's basically a huge brain piloting a finely tuned public speaking machine. Please note that this clip isn't about Catholics being bad people. In my experience, Catholics themselves tend to be some of the nicest, most caring individuals I have ever met. Fry's anger is directed at the Catholic leadership and policy makers. If you liked the clip, you might like to watch the whole "Intelligence Squared" debate.