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People with 'spiky' names are less likely to get job interviews. Do you have one?

Name-based bias goes even beyond race, sex, and class.

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People lined up for job interviews.

There have been many studies in the past that show people face a lot of bias when they turn in a job application. A 2021 study found that job applicants who had "Black-sounding" names were nine percent less likely to get a call back than those whose names sounded "white." People who review resumes are also looking for subtle clues of social class.

A 2016 Yale study found that men who appear to be upper-class in job applications fare much better than women of the same class when applying to elite positions. However, lower-class women perform better than lower-class men in the same process. Unfortunately, sex, race, and class bias are significant issues when it comes to hiring, but another prejudice has nothing to do with inherent characteristics: the way your name sounds can make a big difference when you send in a job application.

Do people judge job applications based on your name?

A recent study carried out by The Conversation found that people attribute personality characteristics to people based on whether their name sounds "smooth" or "spiky." The researchers designed a job ad looking for a candidate high in one of six personality factors: honesty/humility, emotionality, extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness (how organized or hard-working someone is), and openness to experience.

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The researchers sent in applications with people who had smooth-sounding names with sonorant consonants (l, m, n), and the others were spiky with voiceless stops (p, t, k).

Some examples of smooth names (sonorant consonants) include: Joanna, June, Norah, Allen, Linus, and Moses.

Some examples of spiky names (voiceless stops) include: Rita, Erica, Tia, Kurt, and Victor.

The researchers found that individuals with smooth-sounding names were perceived as more agreeable and emotional, whereas those with spikier names were seen as more extroverted. So, if people are hiring for a job where they were looking for agreeable characteristics, those with smooth-sounding names had a better chance of getting the gig.

Interestingly, according to researchers, the way a name sounds has nothing to do with someone’s personality. In real life, Lou and Erica may be just as agreeable as one another. But when hiring managers are just looking at names, Lou gets the gig.

What is sound symbolism?

The idea that the sound of a word can make it feel aligned with particular qualities is known as sound symbolism. It’s why we often say that so-and-so looks like an Emma or a Charles. A popular study on the phenomenon known as the Bouba / Kiki effect found that when given the two names Kiki (spiky) and Bouba (smooth), they are much more likely to call the figure on the left Kiki and the one on the right Bouba. Although researchers don’t know the exact reason why we map certain sounds to specific shapes, they believe it may reflect how we move our mouths to make those sounds.

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“The rounded shape may most commonly be named ‘Bouba’ because the mouth makes a more rounded shape to produce that sound, while a more taut, angular mouth shape is needed to make the sounds in ‘Kiki.’ Alternatively, the distinction may be between coronal or dorsal consonants like /k/ and labial consonants like /b/,” researchers at Mind Modeling wrote.

The study may reveal that there’s one more thing many of us have to worry about when applying for a job. But it’s also a reminder that we all have some sort of bias, and next time we see a name without knowing the person, we may be judging them based on criteria that doesn't reflect who they are. Much like it’s wrong to judge a book by its cover, judging someone by their name may mean you miss out on someone truly wonderful.

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It’s no secret that modern life is stressful. Burnout is an epidemic. The World Health Organization boldly stated its dedicated efforts to help people improve their health and well-being through nature.

And thanks to a new initiative, Sweden is stepping up to offer a new holistic remedy: a physician-prescribed visit to Sweden, aka “The Swedish Prescription”.

“We have made great strides in making nature/social/culture prescription a more integral part of public health in the United States– but there is still so much more to be done,” said Dr. Stacy Stryer, Associate Medical Director for Park RxAmerica.“I welcome Sweden’s initiative and hope it will help break down institutional and organizational barriers, ultimately benefiting all patients.”

AdvertisementPatients can escape to Sweden’s pristine environment for true respite. Backed by scientific data and research from Yvonne Forsell, Senior Professor at Karolinska Institutet, healthcare professionals can prescribe Sweden as a destination where patients engage in non-medical treatments and outdoor activities to ease their ailments and offer a fresh reset.

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Restore body and mind with the Swedish ritual of alternating ice baths and saunas. Swim, hike or forage through silent forests, lakes, parks and nature reserves – or simply sit in the stillness. Witness the Northern Lights dancing across winter skies, or soak up the calm of the summer midnight sun. In Stockholm, Europe’s clean-air capital, take a deep breath and feel the difference.

Or skip the great outdoors and spend time embracing Sweden’s unique cultural practices. “Our cozy fika tradition [Sweden’s daily pause for coffee and conversation], our “lagom”-balanced lifestyle [the idea of “not too much, not too little”] and our easily accessible nature are a soothing balm for body and mind,” says Susanne Andersson, CEO at Visit Sweden.

Sit back in front of a masterpiece in one of Sweden’s many art museums, or head out to a live music event after browsing concert options on Swedish-founded Spotify. You might catch chart-topping hits from producer Max Martin or discover the country’s thriving metal scene. Call it an early – or late – night, and enjoy restorative sleep in Sweden’s cool night air.

Sweden is the therapeutic destination your health has been craving. Learn more about “The Swedish Prescription” and its benefits for your mental and physical health here.

Health

12 photos of women before and after an orgasm shines a new light on women's sexual wellness

"We hope that everyone viewing this project will feel more confident about their bodies and sexuality."

Imagine if this kind of joy had a bigger place in the world.

You might recall Marcos Alberti's mega-viral "3 Glasses" project from 2016, in which he photographed people after they had consumed one, two, and then three glasses of wine. The series was impactful in part because it showed the physical transformation that comes from being relaxed after some wine. That, and it touched on a common curiosity. Haven’t we all wondered if we look as different as we feel after getting a little tipsy? (Spoiler alert: the answer is yes.)

Using a very similar format to “3 Glasses,” as well as the elements of lightheartedness, novelty, and rawness that made it so special, Alberti utilizes his photography to delve into a topic much less discussed: women’s sexual wellness.

The concept is simple: photograph women before, during, and after an orgasm. You can see why he calls this the “O” project.

Despite the subject matter, Alberti assures viewers that the intention wasn’t to be explicit, or even erotic, for that matter. The 20+ women who participated, of varying ethnicities and varying levels of sexually liberated versus conservative countries of origin, were completely covered below the waist while using personal massagers.

“The underlying message: all women deserve to be in control of their sexuality, no matter their background. Women should be free to be empowered by–and have a little fun with–their sexuality,” Alberti wrote on his website.

Similarly, Fan Yang, Global Brand Manager of Smile Makers (a sexual wellbeing brand that partnered with Alberti for this project) noted that the goal was to break through stigma and show female pleasure in a positive, healthy light. The hope is that not only society normalizes female pleasure, but that women themselves connect to their sexuality without “shame and secrecy.”

Given that all the women who participated were “in awe” seeing themselves “glowing and radiant” in their final photo, as Yang put it, it feels safe to say mission: accomplished.

Take a look:

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marcos alberti, 3 glaas, big o, orgasm, sexual wellness, womens sexual wellness, personal massager, female pleasure An O Project participant. marcosalberti.com

marcos alberti, 3 glaas, big o, orgasm, sexual wellness, womens sexual wellness, personal massager, female pleasure An O Project participant. marcosalberti.com

In a video posted to YouTube, we get a behind-the-scenes look at Alberti’s process. Welcoming the models in, setting up his camera behind a curtain for privacy, talking them through the process, making them feel safe and comfortable, etc.

We also get to see the “awe” that Yang spoke of. It’s palpable.

“Initially, I was still apprehensive… [with] a lot of worry. And this one [referring to the final image] is like “Ha! Life is beautiful!” one woman shared, grinning ear-to-ear.

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We can talk ad nauseam about how women’s pleasure shouldn’t be a taboo subject, about how it’s a natural, vital part of her overall wellbeing, how it can lead to better mood, heart health, immune function, sleep, intimacy, self-esteem…yadda, yadda yadda…but there’s nothing like actually witnessing its semi-miraculous powers firsthand. It’s one of the things that make photography so powerful. We feel something raw and honest on a visceral level, so that we can THEN talk about it with empathy and understanding. It’s clear that Alberti knows this on a deep level and is using that knowledge for something truly good.

Be sure to follow Alberti (@marcos_alberti ) on Instagram to keep up-to-date with all his work.





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Foods like casseroles were popular during the 1970s.

All things old are new again—and the same goes for classic recipes.

For those who grew up during the 1970s (that's Baby Boomers and Generation Jones), staple dishes that were served at the dinner table are being rediscovered on Reddit by newer generations looking for filling, comforting, and affordable meals.

According to JSTOR, actress Liza Minelli first coined "comfort food" back in 1970. Minelli told food columnist Johna Blinn, "Comfort food is anything you just yum, yum, yum."

Meals from the 1970s are nostalgic and also budget friendly. Try making one of these comforting recipes from Redditors that will fill you up and not break the bank.

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Tuna casserole

"I LITERALLY made a tuna casserole last night & had the leftovers for lunch today." - Disastrous-Soup-5413, RogerClyneIsAGod2

Turkey (or chicken) tetrazzini

"Tetrazzini is a creamy pasta dish with turkey (or chicken) chicken, mushrooms, and cheese." - Disastrous-Soup-5413

Liver and onions

"Liver and onions, mashed potatoes and a green salad made with iceberg lettuce, tomatoes cut in wedges, cucumber slices .. peeled and miracle whip salad dressing." - Kaktusblute

Quiche Lorraine

"A family favorite quiche recipe from the 1970’s. The secret? Half a cup of mayonnaise and an unreasonable quantity of cheese. My mom uses sweet onion instead of green onion, but otherwise made as written:

1/2 c. real mayonnaise
1/2 c. milk
2 eggs
1 Tbsp. corn starch
1 1/2 c. cubed cooked ham
1 1/2 c. (about 1/2 pound) chopped Swiss cheese
1/3 c. sliced green onion
Dash pepper
1 unbaked 9" pastry shell

Mix together real mayonnaise, milk, eggs and corn starch until smooth. Stir in ham, cheese, onion and pepper. Turn into pastry shell. Bake in 350 degree Fahrenheit oven 35-40 minutes until golden brown on top and knife inserted comes out clean." - banoctopus

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Cheese fondue

"For fondue, you can go in a few different directions. Cubed crusty bread is one of the classic ways to dip into cheese fondue, but you could use fruits, vegetables, chunks of cooked or cured sausages, so long as they will keep their structural integrity." - Bluecat72

Meatloaf and baked potatoes

"A basic meatloaf is ground beef, minced onions, bread crumbs, an egg and a squirt of ketchup for moisture, salt, pepper, garlic powder.. whatever you like. Get your hands in there and squish it all together until thoroughly mixed. Form into a vague loaf shape on a pan and bake at 350 for an hour. Poke a couple potatoes with a fork and cook them in the microwave for 5-7 minutes. Enjoy a meatloaf sandwich with mustard for lunch the next day 😋." - yblame

Pork chops with rice and cream of mushroom soup

"Brown the chops, take them out of the pan, pour in rice, soup and water, stir to combine. Put the pork chops on top. Cover and simmer for 20 minutes or until rice is cooked. Tossed green salad: iceberg lettuce, chopped scallions, tomatoes, cucumbers, Wishbone Italian Dressing." - hicjacket

Salmon croquettes

"Salmon croquettes were a staple of my childhood. Canned salmon, saltine crackers, and an egg. We called them croquettes but naw, they were shaped into salmon patties." - DazzlingBullfrog9, throwawaytodaycat

Mexican casserole

"Brown ground beef, stir in a can of tomato sauce and 1 sliced green onion. Mix together a cup of sour cream, a cup of cottage cheese and a can of chopped green chilies. In a 9x13 pan, layer crushed tortilla chips, meat, cream mixture and grated Colby-jack or Colby cheese. Repeat layers. Bake until hot and bubbly." - Open-Gazelle1767

Hamburger Stroganoff

"One pound ground beef, 1 package Lipton onion soup mix, 1 can cream of mushroom or chicken soup, sour cream. Brown the ground beef, stir in the can of soup and soup mix. Stir in the sour cream until it looks right...I think it's a half pint, but maybe a whole pint. Serve over rice for the 2 kids who eat rice and egg noodles for the one kid who doesn't." - Open-Gazelle1767

Shake 'N Bake Chicken

"Shake’n Bake chicken or pork chops. 'And I helped!' Preheat oven to 400F. Moisten chicken with water. Place breasts in Shake-n-Bake shaker bag. Shake the bag vigorously to coat the chicken. Bake for 20 minutes if boneless, 45 minutes if it does have bones." - Karin58

@allrecipes

Where are all the Shake n Bake girlies? 🍗 Today @nicolesperfectbite is showing you how to make this classic bread coating at home—and dare we say better than the original? 👀 #instafood #food #foodie #shakenbake #bake #chicken #breadcrumbs #paprika #garlic #onion #powder #meat #breading #bread #easy #easyrecipe #recipe #quickandeasy #weeknightdinner

Grilled cheese and tomato soup

"Still my favorite thing to eat, but now I make my own tomato bisque, my own bread, and use Gouda or cheddar. Back then Mom made this for Friday lunch: Campbell's tomato soup (made with milk) and the grilled cheese was two slices of five-loaves-for-a-dollar white bread with Velveeta, grilled with Miami Maid margarine in the Revere Ware skillet." - Mindless_Pop_632, mulberryred

Pork sausage and rice

"I grew up in the 70s and my mother made this sausage and rice dish at least once a month. The recipe is from Peg Bracken's I Hate To Cook Book. Crumble 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of pork sausage (hamburger will do, but pork is better) into a skillet and brown it. Pour off the fat. Add:

1 green pepper, chopped
2 green onions, chopped
2 or 3 celery stalks, chopped
2 c. chicken consommé or bouillon
1 c. raw rice
1 tbsp. Worcestershire sauce
1/2 tsp. salt

Put on the lid and let it simmer at lowest possible heat for 1 hour." - officerbirb

Sloppy Joes

"Classic Sloppy Joes. My family had these regularly in the ‘70s." - ThatPtarmiganAgain

Can you solve this "Wheel of Fortune" puzzle?

Watching a game show from the comfort of home is easy. Being on one is a totally different ball game. The lights, the cameras, the pressure. It's enough to make anyone's brain freeze up. And is there any game show that allows contestants to royally embarrass themselves on national TV quite like Wheel of Fortune? There’s always someone going viral for taking a big swing and missing on a phrase that seemed pretty apparent to the casual viewer. And when you take a big loss on a WOF word puzzle, there are a lot of folks shaking their heads at home. More than 8 million people watch the game show every night. Yikes.

One rather notorious of the wheel was Gishma Tabari from Encino, California, whose fantasy-inspired whiff of a common phrase back in 2023 earned her a lot of groans and some support from those who thought her imagination was inspiring. The 3-word puzzle read: “TH _ _ RITI _ S _ GR _ E,” and Tabari offered the answer, “The British Ogre.” The guess surprised host Pat Sajak, who responded, "Uh, no.” Tabari must have missed that there was a space between the R and the E in the puzzle, so ogre would have had to be spelled with 2 Rs.

She also probably wasn’t aware that England isn’t a place known for its ogres. The correct answer was: “The Critics Agree.”

The answer inspired a lot of activity on X, where people couldn’t believe someone could come up with such a fanciful answer to a puzzle with such a straightforward solution.







One person even created a lovely image of what could be the British Ogre.

Although…not everyone had a problem with the guess.

"OK, the puzzle was clearly THE CRITICS AGREE but to be honest I prefer THE BRITISH OGRE because the puzzles could use some more wacky originality sometimes.#WheelOfFortune"— Pasha Paterson (@zer0bandwidth) December 13, 2023

On the bright side, the incorrect guess is an opportunity for the world to learn that ogres aren’t a significant part of English folklore. Sure, there are characters in English myths and legends that have ogre-like qualities, such as Grendel from "Beowulf," the monstrous creature that terrorizes the mead hall of King Hrothgar. There’s also the Boggart, a mischievous spirit much like a hobgoblin and trolls, which appear in some English tales although they originate in Scandinavia.

If you’re looking for ogres in Europe, France is the best place to go.

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The word ogre is of French descent and comes from the name of the Etruscan god of the underworld, Orcus. Orcus is a large, ugly, bearded giant who enjoys consuming human flesh. Ogres are primarily known for eating children, which they believe will give them eternal life.

As for Wheel of Fortune, the show will undergo significant changes over the next few years. The show’s host, Pat Sajak, 76, stepped down from the show at the end of the 2024 season after hosting it for 41 years. In September 2024, radio host and “American Idol” emcee Ryan Seacrest took over the hosting spot.

Although, it was just announced that Sajak would be making a special guest appearance on Celebrity Wheel of Fortune, performing what he called "Final Spin."

And in case you're wondering how Tabari is doing: on her Instagram she wears her "Wheel of Fortune Flub Girl" title with pride, declaring she is "British Ogre for life."

This article originally appeared two years ago. It has been updated.

Education & Information

15 unusual spooky words to learn for Halloween and beyond

From the supernatural to the downright scary, add these 15 words to your vocabulary.

Spooky vocabulary to use during Halloween season.

Following long and hot summers, there is nothing more refreshing than welcoming in "spooky season" on September 1. With the cooler fall temperatures, revelers prepare for the highly anticipated day that crowns the season: Halloween.

And leading up to October 31, those who love the scary, creepy and supernatural get to settle into all things macabre. Macabre is one of many uncommon words that tend to come out during this time of year.

So if you're looking to expand your Halloween vocabulary, there are many obscure words for you to learn. Here are 15 Halloween words and definitions that will take your lexicon to the next level:

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Phantasm

Phantasm means "a product of fantasy: such as a delusive appearance or illusion; a ghost, specter; or a figment of the imagination."

Apparition

Apparition mean "ghost; the soul of a dead person thought of especially as appearing to living people."

Kraken

Kraken means "a gigantic tentacled sea monster of Scandinavian myth."

According to Merriam Webster, the kraken is "a legendary sea monster of Scandinavian and Norwegian lore, perhaps imagined from sightings of giant squids and octopi. Sailors have discussed giant sea monsters for thousands of years, and Danish historian Erik Pontoppidan described the kraken (as well as sea serpents and mermaids) in detail in his Natural History of Norway (first published in Danish in 1752), claiming the beast was 'round, flat, and full of arms' and 'the largest and most surprising of all the animal creation.'"

Eldritch

Eldritch means "strange or unnatural especially in a way that inspires fear; weird, eerie."

Macabre

Macabre means "gruesome; extremely disturbing or repellent."

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#holloween #holloween2024 #spooky #fear #macabre #englishlesson #speakingenglish #writingenglish #englishasasecondlanguage #eslclass #englishteacher

Werewolf

Werewolf is "a person transformed into a wolf or capable of assuming a wolf's form."

According to Merriam Webster, werewolf traces "all the way back to the Old English werwulf, and before that to a prehistoric predecessor that also left its paw prints on German (Werwolf) and Dutch (weerwolf). Synonyms for werewolf in English include the obscure lycanthrope, which has roots in two Greek words (lykos, meaning 'wolf,' and anthrōpos, meaning 'human being'), and loup-garou, which comes from Old French."

Wraith

Wraith means "the exact likeness of a living person seen usually just before death as an apparition, ghost, specter; an insubstantial form or semblance, shadow; a barely visible gaseous or vaporous column."

Nefarious

Nefarious means "flagrantly wicked or impious; evil."

According to Merriam Webster, nefarious "comes from the Latin adjective nefarius and the Latin noun nefas, which means 'crime.' Nefas is a combination of ne- ('not') and fas, meaning 'right' or 'divine law'."

Lycanthropy

Lycanthropy means "a delusion that one has become a wolf; the assumption of the form and characteristics of a wolf held to be possible by witchcraft or magic."

Mausoleum

Mausoleum means "a large tomb, a usually stone building with places for entombment of the dead above ground; a large gloomy building or room."

Columbarium

Columbarium means "a structure of vaults lined with recesses for cinerary urns."

@wired

A #mausoleum and a #columbarium - what’s the difference? Let’s dive into the world of enternal resting places with licensed funeral director and #mortician #victormsweeney #morticianlife #morticiansoftiktok #cemetery #cremation #funeraldirector

Crepuscular

Crepuscular means "of, relating to, or resembling twilight, dim; occurring or active during twilight."

Esbat

Esbat means "a meeting of a coven of witches."

Malevolent

Malevolent means "having, showing, or arising from intense often vicious ill will, spite, or hatred; productive of harm or evil."

Chthonic

Chthonic means "of or relating to the underworld; infernal."

Boomer grandparents and a stressed mom.

There is a growing trend on social media in which Millennial and Gen X-aged parents (ages 29 to 44) say their Baby Boomer parents aren’t there for their grandkids. In many cases, they begged their kids to have grandchildren, but when the kids arrived, they found better things to do with their time.

The fact that their parents don’t seem to care about their own grandchildren comes as a shock to many, especially those whose grandparents were a big part of their lives growing up. Some say that because Baby Boomers are more affluent than previous generations, they spend their time doing activities outside of their family, or that, as members of the “Me Generation,” they’d rather focus on themselves than family.

Of course, one shouldn’t paint an entire generation with the same brush. There are plenty of fantastic grandparents from the Baby Boomer generation. But for those whose parents shirked their duties as grandparents, the pain is deep.

stressed mom, mom in kitchen, mom with baby, stress, agony, sad mom A stressed mom and her baby.via Canva/Photos

To uncover why so many Baby Boomer grandparents aren’t around for their grandchildren, a Redditor asked the Absent Grandparents subforum for reasons why: “It makes me wonder: why are so many grandparents today so uninvolved, when they themselves relied heavily on grandparent support in the ’90s and 2000s? The one silver lining is this: IF our kids have children, we’ll show up. We’ll offer help, give them weekends off, and be the kind of grandparents we wish ours were.”

5 reasons why Baby Boomer grandparents aren’t around for their grandchildren

1. They relied on their own parents

"I think because a lot of them relied so heavily on grandparent support that they have no idea how hard parenting actually is."

"Yep. My in-laws sent my husband and his two siblings to the babysitter/school for 12+ hours a day, and then on the weekends, they were at their grandma's house. Since they never got deep in the nitty gritty of caretaking, they simply had no patience for their kids when they did have them."

"We were with our grandparents a lot because they didn't want to be parents back then, and they don't want to be grandparents now."

2. They didn't want kids in the first place

"Boomers had kids to appease their parents and never forgave us for it. I think most of them would freely admit they didn’t want to have kids, but societal obligations pushed them into it. I personally believe my father only had me because having a family was kinda expected to climb the corporate ladder."

"My mom admitted that she didn't want kids, but my dad ultimatum-ed her. She was f**king amazing, engaged, involved, supportive. My dad was none of those things. Like, the best you could say is that he wasn't abusive and he liked to brag when we did well (thanks to our mom's support, not his)?"

baby boomers, grandparents, 60s couple, older couple, smiling boomers A couple in their 60s. via Canva/Photos

3. They only want to show off to their friends

"A lot of them only want grandkids so they can take photos and play grandparent for 10 minutes to show off to their friends. The novelty soon wears off, especially when said grandchildren won't perform for them and start having their own opinions."

4. They were selfish

"For me, my parents are incredibly selfish people. They have a decent amount of money, but since I was 18, they have never paid for anything as trivial as a meal for me when we ate out. When my sister had her first grandchild, she mentioned to my parents that it would be helpful if they had a pack-and-play and a high chair/basically some baby gear for when they came to visit. My parents freaked out and basically told her they would not be buying anything like that. If she wanted it at her house, she would have to buy it for them."

5. Emotional immaturity

"I think a lot of boomers are, regrettably, at heart selfish and emotionally immature people. The greatest and silent generations were not perfect, but they had a stronger sense of decency, obligation, and expectation than boomers did. Many boomers sadly have very few interpersonal standards. ... Sorry, but you don’t want people who don’t really care in your life. The reason they don’t see their grandbabies 5 minutes away is because they do not care."

baby boomers, grandparents, 60s couple, older couple, smiling boomers A couple in their 60s. via Canva/Photos

There are many reasons why some Baby Boomers have turned their backs on their grandchildren. So how can parents turn this into a positive? Nathaniel Turner, co-founder of the League of Extraordinary Parents, lawyer, and TEDx speaker, says that parents should take this as an opportunity to build their own village.

“I find the lament about absent Baby Boomer grandparents understandable. However, we need to stop mourning their absence and thank them for the open seats they left behind,” Turner told Upworthy. He suggests that parents find a fresh way forward rather than hope that their Baby Boomer parents will come around one day.

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“You must unapologetically accept that if an individual lacks the capacity to contribute to your child's highest outcome, their DNA gives them no special privilege to the Village seat,” Turner continued.

He suggests that parents create their own “Starting Five”—like a basketball team—to support their child’s development.

“The healthy way to handle absence is to engineer a qualified, superior replacement," he said. "Your job is to honestly and systematically evaluate potential new village members. For us, that was creating the ‘Starting Five’: a collection of five people committed to ensuring your child reaches their full potential and lives a life far better than your own.”

It seems the parents in this thread are tired of lamenting that their own parents just won’t be there for their kids as grandparents, and they just want to understand why. But, as Turner notes, that leaves an opportunity open for someone with a bigger heart and greater concern for their child’s well-being to step in and create an even stronger village.