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He's made a name for himself in the NFL. Now he's using it to support a surprising cause.

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Some people are born knowing what they're passionate about. Others, like Philadelphia Eagle Chris Long, stumble into it.

"It wasn't an epiphany moment," he says. "It kind of happened by accident."

In 2013, Long decided to summit Mount Kilimanjaro in the off-season on a whim. He hardly expected to run into anyone he knew across the world in Tanzania, but that's exactly what happened.


Long, his wife Megan, and their son Waylon all love to hike. All photos courtesy of Chris Long, used with permission.

“After we came down the mountain, my buddy and I went to a local bar,” Long says. “I hear someone say my name. I turn around, and it’s Joe Buck.”

Buck, a sports announcer from Long’s then-hometown St. Louis, was working on a water well project with Doug Pitt, the goodwill ambassador to Tanzania (and Brad Pitt's brother). He asked Long if he wanted to come with them on a day trip to one of the villages where they were working, but Long's flight home was already booked.

Long knew he wanted to do something to give back to Tanzanians, and the random meeting with Buck sparked an idea in him.

He went home and started researching the clean water crisis in Tanzania. Before long, he was hooked — he knew that getting clean water to East Africa was something he wanted to do. So he formed Waterboys.

Waterboys brings NFL players and fans together to help fund the construction of wells in villages in East Africa. The original goal was 32 well projects — one for each football team in the NFL. This year, Waterboys funded its 29th project. “Right now we’ve served over 100,000 people,” he says. “Ultimately our goal will be a million.”

Long’s passion stems from his desire to make a clear, demonstrable change. “Water has such a measurable impact,” he says.

Without a well, community members — typically women and young girls — have to dedicate long hours to traveling on foot to find water. But the water is still dirty, so when people drink it, they can fall ill, keeping kids out of school and adults away from work.

“It’s about more than just having clean water for survival,” says Long. Introducing clean, accessible water gives people an opportunity to thrive.

One of the key elements to Waterboys’ cause is they don’t actually build the wells — they pay local construction crews to do it.

“I didn’t want to be the guy who slaps down a well and says ‘hey, good luck,’” Long says. By hiring local crews to work the construction project, Waterboys doesn’t just provide a much-needed source of clean water. It also funnels money into the village’s local economy, creating jobs and increasing the community’s independence and sustainability.

For Long, giving back in this way is one of the best parts of his job and what makes it all worthwhile.

“I love football, but I don’t think I’d love football as much if I weren’t able to have this impact,” he says. He’s made a point to capitalize on the platform that being in the NFL has afforded him to help other people.

Chris and his brother Kyle, who plays for the Chicago Bears and is also a member of Waterboys.

“If I just started the Chris Long Water Foundation, people in Seattle wouldn’t care about that. But if I could get a guy on the Seahawks on board, then I could get people there involved, too,” Long says. He now has 13 other current or former NFL players, including his brother Kyle, working alongside him.

As for the future, Long says Waterboys has no intention of slowing down. In fact, they're expanding.

“I will always love Tanzania and I’ll stay involved there, but it’s is a tough sell. It’s a long trip and it’s hard to get guys to go there in the off-season,” Long says. “So we’re looking to expand, possibly to Central America and to Haiti.”

He’s also expanded his charitable efforts to include the military community. He now runs an annual trip called “Conquering Kili,” where NFL players and combat veterans summit Mount Kilimanjaro to raise money for Waterboys.

Long's aware that his charities benefit from his fame as a football player, so he’s doing his best to fit in as much good work as he can while he’s still playing. "I know I won’t be able to have this impact forever, so I’m kind of in a rush to get stuff done," he says.

And he urges other to use their own influence in the same way — be it through their jobs, networks, or just via social media. A philanthropic spirit doesn't have to develop out of a fortuitous meeting in a foreign country. It can come out of any issue you see in your daily life that you want to improve.

Even the smallest contribution to a cause like Long's can have a huge impact. “We’ve definitely saved lives,” he says. "We've transformed communities."

Chris Long is one of more than 750 NFL players who will lace up for charitable causes as part of the NFL’s My Cause My Cleats initiative. Starting Nov. 28, NFL players will reveal their custom cleats, many of which will be auctioned to raise money for the charitable organizations they support. For more information, visit www.nfl.com/mycausemycleats.

1970s, '70s, generations, food, meals

Kids in the 1970s pretending to cook

"What's for dinner?" has been asked by kids for millennia, probably, and the most common answers depend on both where and at what time in history it was asked. In ancient times, people were limited to what they could hunt or gather. Medieval recipes look different than what people ate in the 19th century. And what our grandparents ate when they were children was different from what our kids eat today.

Obviously, people couldn't DoorDash Chipotle in the '70s, but when someone on Reddit asked people born before 1970 what they ate for dinner most weeks, there were some standard meals a lot of Americans clearly ate regularly growing up. Lots of meatloaf and beef stroganoff. Pork chops and chop suey. Convenient assistance from Shake n' Bake, Hamburger Helper and TV dinners. Canned fruits and veggies. So much Jell-O.


Here are some of the most popular responses:

"Overcooked pork chop, minute rice, canned green beans, canned fruit cocktail

Spaghetti with ground beef and sauce made from a packet (Durkee?)

Pot roast (whatever cut of meat was on sale) cooked with Lipton onion soup mix. Frozen peas. Canned peaches.

Meatloaf with mashed potatoes and canned green beans. Canned pears

Shake n bake chicken and scalloped potatoes from a box. Canned fruit of some kind.

On awesome days Chef Boyardee pizza mix from a box.

I liked LaChoy chop suey.

Always with a jug of milk on the table."

1970s, '70s, generations, meals, meatloaf Meatloaf was a staple dinner.Photo credit: Canva

"So I think many of our moms went to the same home ec classes. Our house also had on rotation:

Goulash: It wasn’t what I have come to understand is Hungarian Goulash, but ground beef/spices/tomatoes.

Chicken Diane: Way overcooked chicken with rosemary, thyme and other seasonings.

Meatloaf: Yes, ketchup on top.

And the ever-present rice. Dad bought an aluminum rice cooker from his time in Japan and we had rice (he added soy sauce on top) 3x per week. The other side was baked potatoes.

The big treat!!!??? Chef Boy Ar Dee pizza from a tube on Friday once per month. Mom had a round aluminum baking pan and make dough, spread the included sauce on the dough, add the Parmesan Cheese (in the included packet). That was the biggest treat - and in all honesty I would go back to that day cause I miss my mom. Best pizza ever."

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"Hamburger patty or braised round steak, green salad, canned vegetable (peas, beans, corn, beets). Occasionally a baked potato. Sometimes my mom would toss chicken in a flour/seasoning mix and bake it and we'd have oven fried chicken--maybe once every couple of weeks. We got beef from a cousin so it was cheap, and chicken was expensive.

Mom also made spaghetti with ground beef, and beef stew with the tougher cuts of the cow. Oh--and liver--God how I hated liver night.

We always had cheap grocery store 'ice milk' in the freezer for dessert."

1970s, '70s, generations, food, meals, spaghetti Spaghetti is still a classic.Photo credit: Canva

"Sunday - Spaghetti/macaroni and homemade spaghetti sauce and a salad.

Monday - Roast chicken, a side (potatoes, Rice-a-Roni), and a veg.

Tuesday - Pork chops, a side (potatoes, Rice-a-Roni), and a veg.

Wednesday - Spaghetti/macaroni and homemade spaghetti sauce and a salad.

Thursday - Rump or sirloin steak, a side (potatoes, Rice-a-Roni), and a veg.

Friday - breaded and fried fish (ugh--haddock, halibut, or cod if the latter was on sale), a side (potatoes, Rice-a-Roni), and a veg.

Saturday - Rump or sirloin steak, a side (potatoes, Rice-a-Roni), and a veg.

Dessert would be supermarket ice cream (carton, usually Neopolitan), Jello chocolate pudding, Table Talk pie (usually apple)."

1970s, '70s, generations, food, meals, pork chops Why were pork chops so popular?Photo credit: Canva

"Typical meals: stroganoff made with ground beef and egg noodles. Pot roast. Swiss steak. Chicken cacciatore. Fried chicken. This was in California, but my parents were from the Midwest so pretty meat-and-potatoes. There was always a side vegetable and a starch. Rarely bread or rolls. Occasionally salad but not always until the 1980s. No formal/planned dessert except for special occasions like birthdays and holidays, but sometimes there was ice cream in the freezer or there were cookies (store bought; my mom wasn't a baker). In the late 70s my mom loved Julia Child and started to be more adventurous with cooking; later she took Asian cooking classes too."

"Beef stroganoff, fried bologna, weiners wrapped in bacon and then broiled, baked beans, (from scratch) liver.

Jello 1-2-3 (so space age!) Bundt cake, canned fruit salad, canned pears, canned peaches."

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"When we had some money (early in the pay period):

Spaghetti with sausages and homemade sauce

Liver and onions

Chop suey

Spare ribs and sauerkraut

Pork chops with mashed potatoes and gravy

Beef stew

Boeuf bourguignon

Beef stroganoff

When we were short on money:

Spam & scrambled eggs

Homemade macaroni & cheese

Cold cereal

That’s all I can think of right now.

We very rarely ever had dessert and almost never ate out. We never had fast food, the only fast food chain in town was Burger King, and McDonald’s was a town away and only open about six months of the year."

Here's to all the meals that nourished us in every era of our lives.

Pop Culture

22 hobbies folks claim are surefire ways to meet super-friendly people in real life

"Boxing. Yeah, I know it’s not the stereotype, but try it, you’ll be surprised."

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Two women enjoying a boxing class.

Solo hobbies are great for establishing some quality alone time, but there’s something to be said for enrichment activities that add to our physical wellbeing, provide a creative outlet, or give a recreational boost while also helping us build our own little tribe of like-minded weirdos.

Still, it can be a little intimidating to know where to start. That’s why a good old-fashioned crowdsourced list can come in handy.


Recently, folks on Reddit answered the question, "What hobbies attract the most friendly people?" and it’s filled with out-of-the-box answers that can provide a little bit of inspiration and encouragement.

From unique art meet-ups to sports that are surprisingly welcoming, here are some of our favorite answers:

1. Sewing/Crocheting

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A group of crocheters. Photo credit: Canva

"My very introverted and not-too-social mom picked up crocheting some time after turning 50. She found the most wholesome and friendly group of people that she is now super close with."

“The crochet community is pretty friendly, supportive, and incredibly talented.”

"I’ve had multiple instances where I’m shopping for yarn and another fiber artist will start a cute little 'whatcha makin'' convo. Then we trade advice and opinions, and I always feel like I just made a new friend. :)"

2. Archery

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A person getting ready to shoot a target with an arrow. Photo credit: Canva

"Archery is pretty awesome, even just going to the public range. Everyone is friendly for sure."

"Something that always turned me off from other sports was when people would get overly emotional and angry when playing. The archery range is so peaceful."

3. Arcades

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A group of friend enjoying games at an arcade. Photo credit: Canva

"Playing pinball or gaming in vintage arcades. Everyone there is usually pretty polite, civil, and just having a good time."

4. Rock Climbing

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Two people rock climbing. Photo credit: Canva

"Very laid back, active people in reasonably good shape, social, and eager to help with problems or just make small talk."

"If you live near a climbing gym, look into beginner classes. Many gyms offer a six- or eight-week program that teaches you how to belay and do everything safely. It's a great way to meet other people who are getting into climbing."

5. Improv

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit An improv class. Photo credit: Canva

"I took a couple of improv classes a few years ago and had an absolute blast! Everyone should try it at least once in their life. I think it’s really helped me work with people and be a better teacher."

6. Birdwatching (birding)

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Two people enjoying birdwatching. Photo credit: Canva

"I'm a bird watcher! In my experience, most birders are just goofy nerds that love going 'oooh is that a [insert bird name here]???' It's great fun!"

7. Robot Combat

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A hand-built robot. Photo credit: Canva

"The community is thriving, and people are helping each other all the time and sharing ideas. 15% of the spare parts I pack when going to meet-ups are meant for other people, and we gift away the broken bits of our robots to our opponents as trophies. Sometimes we even travel and Airbnb together."

8. Beekeeping

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A friendly beekeeper. Photo credit: Canva

"It's a lot of older people who are interested in sharing knowledge."

9. Woodworking

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Two woodworkers. Photo credit: Canva

"The woodworking community is really supportive. All it takes is one tablesaw mishap to humble you a bit and decide you'd rather not see that happen to anyone else, lol."

10. Boxing/Capoeira/Martial Arts

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit People participating in Capoeira.Photo credit: Canva

"Yeah, I know it’s not the stereotype, but try it, you’ll be surprised."

"Capoeira. The people are almost too friendly."

“I've wanted to do some kind of martial arts since high school and only managed to work up the courage to finally try it in my 30s. As a woman, it's such a masculine, intimidating environment. Once I got over the initial nerves (which took a while) and got to know some people, it was the warmest, most supportive, and authentic community I've been in."

11. Book clubs

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A book club meeting. Photo credit: Canva

"I joined a book club, and everyone is really cool!"

12. Gardening

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A gardening club. Photo credit: Canva

"Gardeners are the most generous, friendliest people I've ever met. Optimistic too."

13. Hiking

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A group of hikers. Photo credit: Canva

"I’ve never joined a group that wasn’t full of the kindest people. The one I’m in now is lovely."

14. Miniature Painting

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A guy painting a miniature. Photo credit: Canva

"The miniature painting community is one of the most supportive/friendly communities on Earth. You could probably shit on a mini and throw some glitter on it, and someone who's been painting for 25 years and is essentially a genius artist will be like, 'I love the color scheme, welcome to the hobby!'"

15. Horror Conventions

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Two characters you might see at a horror convention. Photo credit: Canva

"I've met so many nice people at horror conventions. Polite, friendly, enthusiastic, and curious."

16. Scuba Diving

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A scuba diver throwing up hand signs. Photo credit: Canva

"The scuba community is super supportive. I think it’s inherent to how the sport works. Good communication, mutual respect, and caution are instilled in you during the education process. You need to be able to meet someone for the first time and potentially trust them with your life as a dive buddy. That requires a certain level of built-in trust. On top of that, there’s an extra layer of camaraderie that you get from diving in odd spots or at unusual times of the year. I once dove in a quarry on the absolute last day of the season, when it was cold enough that my wet gear froze to the table, but I had a blast chatting up the handful of other people unhinged enough to be out on the water that day."

17. Skateboarding

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A group of skateboarders. Photo credit: Canva

"It’s literally like a family everywhere you go."

18. Beer Brewing

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Two people enjoying beer. Photo credit: Canva

"I'm sure most people would assume it's just a bunch of pretentious craft beer bros. However, people are incredibly cool and very positively constructive with their feedback. As a result, everyone who has gained some confidence is thrilled to share their beer and have people genuinely appreciate them."

19. Competition shooting

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit People at a gun range Photo credit: Canva

"Believe it or not…people are very kind to each other and we love to nerd out over our builds. Safety is almost always our #1 priority and I honestly feel more safe at the range than I do at a car meet!"

20. Mountain Biking

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit Three people mountain biking Photo credit: Canva

"If you're sitting on the side of the trail, everyone who passes will stop to ask if you're OK. People will share food, parts, tools, directions, advice, etc."

"You can literally pull up to a brewery, grab a beer, and sit down with other mountain bikers you've never met and instantly become friends by sharing stories or talking about how your ride went."

21. Disc Golf

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A hand throwing a frisbee into a disc golf basket Photo credit: Canva

"Disc golfers are generally friendly and chill."

Last but not least…

22. Fishing

hobbies, unique hobbies, irl hobbies, meeting new people, boxing club, meet ups near me, clubs near me, making friends, ask reddit A person fishing Photo credit: Canva

"Every time I've joined a fishing club or just met someone while out fishing, we share stories and tips and enjoy the experience. Good people."

sleep, andrew huberman, sleep hacks, neuroscience, sleep tips, sleep advice, how to sleep

Andrew Huberman and a woman sleeping.

There is nothing worse than lying in your bed, with your mind racing, and you can’t fall asleep. The longer you lie in bed, the more anxious you get about falling asleep, which makes it even harder to catch some ZZZs. You've tried clearing your mind, but can’t. You’ve tried counting sheep but reached 100. What do you do now?

On a recent Real Time with Bill Maher, neuroscientist Andrew Huberman made an off-the-cuff remark about a sleep hack that he swears by, and it's based on brain research. Huberman is a Stanford University neuroscientist and tenured professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology. He's also the host of the popular podcast Huberman Lab, which focuses on health and science.


How to fall asleep fast

“In fact, if you wake up in the middle of the night and you're having trouble falling back asleep, try just doing some long, extended exhales. And get this, this sounds really weird, but it has a basis in physiology. Keep your eyes closed and just move your eyes from side to side behind your eyelids like this, back and forth,” Huberman told Maher as he moved his eyes from side to side as if he was surveying a vast landscape. “Do some long exhales. I can't promise, but I'm willing to wager like maybe one pinky, that within five minutes or so, you'll be back to sleep.”

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Andrew Huberman’s hack is based on neuroscience

Huberman explained the exercise in greater detail on Mark Bell's Power Project podcast. In his appearance, he discussed the interesting connection between our eyes and their connection to the amygdala, an almond-shaped part of the brain that controls our emotional response. “Eye movements of that sort actually do suppress the amygdala [to] make people feel calmer, less fearful,” Huberman said. He adds that when we are on a walk, we move our eyes from side to side, to analyze the terrain ahead of us, and the amygdala calms down.

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“But for most people who are sighted, moving your eyes from side to side for 10 to 30 seconds is going to calm you down," Huberman said. "And this makes really good sense because, from an evolutionary perspective, an adaptive perspective, we've always been confronted with interpersonal threats and animal to human threats. Forward movement is the way that you suppress the fear response."

Americans aren’t getting enough sleep

Huberman’s video is important because many Americans need to get more sleep. A 2022 Gallup poll found that only 32% of Americans said they got “excellent” or “very good” sleep; 35% described their sleep as “good”; and 33% said their sleep was “fair” or “poor.”

Sleep is essential to maintaining good health. Getting at least seven hours of sleep a night is great for your memory, focus, emotional regulation, appetite, muscle recovery, and tissue repair. It also reduces the risk of chronic conditions like heart disease and diabetes. It’s great that Huberman shares his hack, which few people would have come up with without a background in neuroscience, to improve their sleep. It’s also another exciting way to show just how interconnected the body is, from eyes to brain and beyond. Sweet dreams.

This article originally appeared last year.

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Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie in the 1970s.

Perhaps anticipating that musical artists might be more sensitive than most, music journalists sometimes gently goad them to provoke reactive quotes. But what happened in a 1977 Australian interview may have proven otherwise.

In a resurfaced clip making the rounds on social media, three members of the band Fleetwood Mac (Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks, and Christine McVie) are being interviewed in Australia. As they discuss how they all became part of the band, McVie explains:


"When Fleetwood Mac first formed, it was a blues band. A pub band that used to travel around the country and earn relatively little money ... But they became very successful with a single they had out called 'Albatross,' which made them popular on the continent — Europe and England. As far as I know, America didn't really know them."

The reporter then directs questions to Buckingham and Nicks: "Stevie and Lindsey, how did you manage to leap into such a successful band? How did it come about?"

After joking for a second about his wording, Buckingham answers:

"We had a band about two years previous to Fleetwood Mac called Buckingham Nicks. And at the time Mick (Fleetwood) was looking for a studio in which to record an album in, and he ended up at Sound City in Los Angeles just looking at the studio. And the engineer who had done our album played him some of the tapes just to show what the studio sounded like. And he really liked the tapes. He really liked the music. And I guess a week after that, Bob Welch left the group. And just on a hunch, they asked us to join. We didn't audition or anything."

But here's where things might have taken a turn. The interviewer then seems to solely focus on Buckingham: "It must have been one of the first bands to incorporate ladies and use them, as such. Any problems as far as credibility of ladies in rock 'n' roll when the band first hit the road with the girls?"

Buckingham appears to know better than to answer, and he and Nicks quickly look at McVie, who replies:

"Well, I had already been in the band for a good while, as a 'lady.' And as a musician, ya know. I'd been primarily a musician, rather than a 'backup singer' in any case. And then when Stevie joined the band, she was also a frontline singer and writer. I think in that way, I guess we were the innovators of that kind of thing because it was more or less, to my knowledge, prior to us girls would be in rock bands, but would be backup singers and…"

"Pretty faces," the interviewer interjects. At first glance, Nicks seems jarred by the comment but remains calm, responding:

"Well, I think it comes down to the fact that Fleetwood Mac could not go on without Chris and me if we were sick or something. Whereas most bands, with a girl in it, could go ahead and would go on and play. But they'd have trouble without us."

Nicks, for her part, has often been a champion of female singer-songwriting. In fact, after she performed with Taylor Swift at the 2010 Grammys, journalists and fans alike were critical of Swift's performance. Nicks believed so strongly in the then 20-year-old singer that she wrote about it in Time magazine.

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According to Peter Burditt's article in American Songwriter, Nicks wrote:

"This girl writes the songs that make the whole world sing, like Neil Diamond or Elton John. She sings, she writes, she performs, she plays great guitar. Taylor can do ballads that could be considered pop or rock and then switch back into country. When I turned 20 years old, I had just made the serious decision to never be a dental assistant. Taylor just turned 20, and she's won four Grammys. Taylor is writing for the universal woman and for the man who wants to know her. The female rock-'n'-roll-country-pop songwriter is back, and her name is Taylor Swift. And it's women like her who are going to save the music business."

The comments under the Australian interview clip are extremely supportive of Nicks and McVie.

"When I think of the band, Fleetwood Mac, I always think of Stevie Nicks and Christine McPhee (McVie) first. Christine and Stevie were equal members of the band. Everyone in that band wrote songs. All of the love affairs coming to an end made a fantastic album called Rumours."

"I love that Lindsey did not answer this question. He knew better! Love to them all!"

"Pretty faces! Has he never seen them perform? But they pave the way! Ladies don't realize what women went through. Women could not even own a credit card or have a bank account in 1974. So crazy!" (They're likely referring to the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which passed that year.)

Finally, this Instagrammer sums up the discussion with a perfect comment: "The inventor of Rock 'N' Roll was a lady herself, Sister Rosetta Tharpe."

Culture

Woman from Denmark shares 'normal' things that are considered rude in Nordic countries

It's fascinating how "common courtesy" can differ so much from place to place.

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Scandinavian countries find certain things rude that are perfectly acceptable elsewhere.

The saying, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do," has been around since ancient times and is still a good reminder that customs and habits vary wherever you go. One of the best things about traveling to another part of the world is discovering how things you think are normal or standard are not universally so, and seeing how different cultures function broadens your ideas of the human experience.

That's why a woman from Denmark explaining "normal" things that are considered rude in Nordic countries has caught people's attention. People are often fascinated with Denmark, Finland, Sweden, and Norway, largely because they regularly top lists of "happiest countries in the world" (which is always a little surprising considering the weather in that part of the world alone).


Here are the 13 behaviors and habits Kelly Louise Killjoy says Nordic countries consider rude in her experience:

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1. Being late to anything

Of course, being late is rude in a lot of places, so this one may not be surprising, but punctuality is a culturally specific expectation. There are places where it would be considered rude to show up early, and other places where "fashionably late" doesn't exist. In Killjoy's experience, Nordic folks like to be as close to exactly on time as possible. "Like five minutes early or five minutes late, no more, no less," she says. "Preferably exactly on time." And they will often apologize for even being one minute late.

2. Showing up unannounced

Some countries have a distinct "dropping by" culture, but the Nordic nations aren't among them. Even close friends and family call or text before arriving at someone's house, as it's considered rude to just show up. "With Nordic people, it's all about respecting our time," Killjoy says. "We often plan our time very carefully, according to when we're meeting you. And these meetups are often scheduled weeks or months beforehand. So the door may be open, but it doesn't mean the schedule is."

3. Canceling plans last minute

"Unless you have a serious reason, this is more rude than saying no up front because you don't feel like it," Killjoy says. "Again, Nordic people plan their time around you for weeks, if not months, so respect our time and we will love you for it."

Nordic cultures, plans, rude, what's rude, planning, time management Woman disappointed by last minute cancelled plans. Photo credit: Canva

4. Speaking to people without a practical purpose

Even though not everyone loves it, small talk is considered normal in American culture. Not so much in Scandinavia. If you're just running errands or going through your normal daily life activities in Nordic countries, people don't just shoot the breeze with you. "If you talk to us, we will assume there's a reason, otherwise we get confused and awkward," Killjoy says. "If you've ever had a conversation with a Nordic person where you thought, 'Why didn't they like me?' or 'This got awkward very quickly,' it's because that Nordic person was more than likely trying to figure out what you wanted out of that conversation."

5. Being overly polite

Killjoy says this is another area where Americans and Nordic people often misunderstand each other. The idea of politeness being rude even sounds like an oxymoron, but for Nordic folks, it's really about being asked questions you don't want to give real answers to. The example Killjoy gives is asking people, "How are you?" That's standard for Americans, and it's understood that you're not asking someone to spill all of their emotions in the moment. But Nordic folks take questions at face value, so it feels personal and invasive.

6. Speaking loudly in public places

One thing that people sometimes pinpoint with Americans visiting other countries is that we tend to speak loudly. In a public place like a restaurant, where lots of people are talking, it's not really much of a consideration for us. But it is for Nordic folks (and a lot of other European countries, Killjoy points out).

7. Sitting next to someone when you don't have to

"This is a classic Nordic meme, but it's true," Killjoy says. "We do not like people sitting next to us when we can see there's space around for them to divide themselves upon." If you sit next to a Nordic person on a mostly empty bus, they'll think something is wrong with you or that you might wish them harm. (To be fair, this is likely true most places. But there are some friendly folks who like to chat with strangers and will take the opportunity when they see it.)

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8. Using formal titles

"Unless you're addressing the king or queen, don't," says Killjoy. Although titles like "Mr." or "Mrs." or "Dr." are used to show respect in a lot of places, Nordic folks tend to see them as impersonal and distant. "Even doctors and teachers will think it's weird if you use formal titles with them," she says.

9. Bragging

"This ties into the people being loud part as well," Killjoy says. "Nordic culture is a very conflict-avoidant and don't-stand-outish kind of culture." She says there's even a Danish word for this social norm that heavily discourages standing out and favors humility and equality: Janteloven. "Bragging just goes heavily against that," Killjoy says.

10. Tipping

"Tipping cultures are very awkward to Nordic people," says Killjoy. "Like, I don't understand why you can't just pay your employees." (Same, honestly.)

11. Not taking off your shoes in someone's home

This one is more of a household-by-household preference in the U.S., it seems, but in Scandinavia, it's the norm to take off your shoes in the house. Most Nordic homes have mudrooms for this very purpose.

12. Honking your car horn

Go to any major U.S. city, and you'll hear no shortage of car horns. Killjoy says in Denmark it's illegal to honk your car horn for any other reason than as a danger warning or if someone hasn't seen you. "If you honk, someone will assume there's something wrong," she says, so don't honk there out of impatience.

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13. Jaywalking

Killjoy calls jaywalking "kind of rude," primarily because Nordic folks tend to be rule-followers. It's not that they will never jaywalk, but generally, they only do it when no one is really around or would notice.

Of course, these "considered rude" behaviors are coming from one person, and some commenters from Nordic countries added some clarifications in the comments (such as the "no dropping by" rule being something newer or more specific to urban than rural areas). But many fellow Scandinavians corroborated the things on this list. It's good to know, though, what people from one of these countries might find rude when you meet them.

And if you ever find yourself in Denmark? Do as the Danes do.