Dax Shepard is sober. Kristen Bell is not. And he couldn’t be more supportive of that.
For many people who struggle with substance abuse issues there is an inherent fear that once they stop using they will no longer be able to be around their friends who aren't sober.
And sometimes that fear is mutual, with friends and family worrying that they have to hide their continued normal use around their sober loved ones, or else they could send them into a spiral of relapse.
But in a new interview, Bell showed it doesn't have to be that way when couples are able to honestly and lovingly communicate with each other.
In August, Shepard celebrated 14 years of sobriety. It’s a major accomplishment and Bell was right there in full public support of her husband, sharing a loving note on Instagram in which she praised the fellow actor’s commitment to his healthy lifestyle and overcoming his past struggles with addiction.
But in a new interview, Bell revealed that she regularly vapes marijuana around Shepard -- and he couldn’t care less.
"I smoke around my husband and it doesn't seem to bother him," Bell told WTF host Marc Maron during an appearance on his podcast, adding, “Weed rules.”
Bell made it clear she’s not achieving Snoop Dogg levels of cannabis cultivation here.
"Once a week, if I am exhausted and we are about to sit down and watch 60 Minutes, why not?" she told Maron.
Maron, who is himself sober, was surprised Shepard was so comfortable with his wife enjoying a mind-altering substance in his presence.
But as Bell wisely pointed out, people who have faced their own substance issues -- either through a 12-Step recovery program or others means -- can often co-exist with their non-sober friends or partners just fine.
People don't have to stay in crisis forever and sober people are perfectly capable of having fun around non-sober people.
"He lost his privilege with [drugs] because he can't handle it; his brain doesn't have the chemistry to handle it," Bell said.
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To the man mocked me in our wedding photos because I cried too many tears of joy, Who wore a baby Bjorn for 2 straight years to show his girls how to be as adventurous as possible, Who held our dear little shakey mann pup for 8 hrs straight on the day we had to put him down, I know how much you loved using. I know how much it got in your way. And I know, because I saw, how hard you worked to live without it. I will forever be in awe of your dedication, and the level of fierce moral inventory you perform on yourself, like an emotional surgery, every single night. You never fail to make amends, or say sorry when its needed. You are always available to guide me, and all of our friends, with open ears and tough love when its needed most. You have become the fertilizer in the garden of our life, encouraging everyone to grow. I'm so proud that you have never been ashamed of your story, but instead shared it widely, with the hope it might inspire someone else to become the best version of themselves. You have certainly inspired me to do so. I love you more than I ever thought I could love anyone, and I want you to know, I see you. I see how hard you work. You set an excellent example of being human. Happy 14th year sobriety birthday, @daxshepard. Xoxo
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In fact, Shepard isn’t just “fine” with his wife vaping from time to time, he wants her to experiment with more drugs, albeit in a safe manner.
Shepard has reportedly suggested that Bell throw an “ecstasy party” at their home, even offering to be a “sober guide” for her and her friends.
"You shouldn't leave earth without having tried mushrooms or ecstasy," she said Shepard told her.
Hallucinogenic substances like "magic mushrooms" (Psilocybin fungi) and ecstasy (MDMA) have been gaining popularity in mental health circles with growing evidence that they can be used to help treat the symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), depression, anxiety and other conditions.
Still, that doesn’t mean Bell plans to tear it up on a regular basis, adding that one thing she certainly agrees with Shepard on is that people who drink too much can be a bit of an eye sore.
"I am not sober and I would agree, it's just annoying," she said.